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    • #30084
      Art
      Moderator

      Gents,

      For those of you who might be interested:

      This fall – an IROC series starting in September through December (8 races) – to be raced on the first Saturday and third Saturday of every month as a 5th R32 race at MVL and NRMP (the new track)…

      To participate:

      1. buy in is the cost of a car plus any needed upgrades/tires (TBD) and a nominal amount for prep and will be the same for everyone;
      2. race will be the last race on every R32 Saturday racing schedule;
      3. random chip draw for choice of car before every race;
      4. repairs/replacement parts/prep to be paid for by the driver causing them after any race;
      5. at conclusion of series every participant will receive one of the cars (random chip draw for choice of car).

      We would need a minimum of 7 buy ins for this to be feasible.

      RTR plastic chassis liveried models such as NSR, Slot.It, Sideways or Mr. Slotcar would be an obvious choice for this series since they are quick, don’t need much maintenance/tuning and are durable. A classic LeMans era theme using NSR models would be my personal choice, but LMK your thoughts… if there is enough interest then maybe this would work…

    • #30088
      JMSracer
      Moderator

      Sounds like a great idea and fun.  You can count me in.

      Thanks,

    • #30089
      Ken
      Moderator

      I have another idea. Several actually.

      I think the new Thunderslot Shelby GT350 needs a place to race. They are scheduled for release this coming Tuesday Aug 16th. 4-colours will be available.

      Jim has claimed the Scalex Mini as his IROC cars. The Mini’s are run at his place no matter what other classes are raced. It’s been a great success.

      Art. I think you should claim the new Thunderslot GT-350 as your IROC car. Everyone can buy their own if they want to join in. Where ever you host be it Nova Ridge, MVL, or the Ring. GT-350’s are on the menu. Box stock with DArt tires. Let’s go racing!

      A random draw might also work for what driver races what car at each event. That prevents people from upgrading their cars. But, I would prefer to take my blue GT-350 home after each race.

      I would not hesitate to buy a Thunderslot Shelby GT350. I’ve wanted one ever since I heard about them. Who wouldn’t want one?

      These are just some of my strange ideas.

      Ken

    • #30090
      Porsche911
      Member

      Hi gents, as several of you know, I suggested an IROC years ago(as well as front Motor), no one appeared too interested…perhaps times have changed.

      As much as my FAVE class of racing CLM is, I’d suggest something different,  unlike any class we currently race,  and less expensive, than say NSR’s, or the soon to be released Pioneer(which from what I’ve read is NO WHERE NEAR Scale, and may be Livery limited)…. I have no issues shelling out whatever is required, assuming we’d all be buying the parts, Art  tuning the cars etc, however,  there may be some members that , with no deference intended, are more ‘fiscally prudent’, as I also try to be… We already have lots of ‘fast classes’, and over the years, typically, the ‘closest’ racing we always have, is also the closest to stock configuration,  NASCAR…. In the 1:1 world, I’m not a NASCAR fan per se, left turn left turn, though their road races are generally good…

      I’m not sure what what class/style may be decided on, but…. I found these. We could buy 3 for the cost of 1NSR (they’re less than $40 CDN with shipping on AMZN), there are multiple liveries, and I’d expect(not having run them) to be as durable as a NASCAR. (Has anyone got 1??)

      To me the idea of IROC is a random selection of cars, run by all…Red/White/Blue 1 race, Green/Yellow/Orange the next, and ‘held’ (Art?) until delivered to the Host… we could buy 6 cars for less than $250, + tires, less than $300 for the entire Club!! Surely enough to get us through a season of racing… Slap a set of Dart’s, perhaps some weight, Start yer engines!!

      Eager to hear your thoughts

       

    • #30091
      Porsche911
      Member

      Hi gents, as several of you know, I suggested an IROC years ago(as well as front Motor), no one appeared too interested…perhaps times have changed.

      As much as my FAVE class of racing CLM is, I’d suggest something different,  unlike any class we currently race,  and less expensive, than say NSR’s, or the soon to be released Pioneer(which from what I’ve read is NO WHERE NEAR Scale, and may be Livery limited)…. I have no issues shelling out whatever is required, assuming we’d all be buying the parts, Art  tuning the cars etc, however,  there may be some members that , with no deference intended, are more ‘fiscally prudent’, as I also try to be… We already have lots of ‘fast classes’, and over the years, typically, the ‘closest’ racing we always have, is also the closest to stock configuration,  NASCAR…. In the 1:1 world, I’m not a NASCAR fan per se, left turn left turn, though their road races are generally good…

      I’m not sure what what class/style may be decided on, but…. I found these. We could buy 3 for the cost of 1NSR (they’re less than $40 CDN with shipping on AMZN), there are multiple liveries, and I’d expect(not having run them) to be as durable as a NASCAR. (Has anyone got 1??)

      To me the idea of IROC is a random selection of cars, run by all…Red/White/Blue 1 race, Green/Yellow/Orange the next, and ‘held’ (Art?) until delivered to the Host… we could buy 6 cars for less than $250, + tires, less than $300 for the entire Club!! Surely enough to get us through a season of racing… Slap a set of Dart’s, perhaps some weight, Start yer engines!!

      Eager to hear your thoughts

      Meant to mention, there are 8 liveries available at $29CAD + $9 shipping.

    • #30098
      Art
      Moderator

      Excellent feedback so far! Thank you so much!

      I have two points to keep this discussion on point:

      1. This would be a true IROC series with no ownership of models. The cars will be put in a box or case and brought to the next race as is. If a car is damaged or needs repair then it will be at the cost of the pilot. Before every race each participant will have an opportunity to choose the car they race – order of choice of car will be based on random chip draw. At the end of the series the cars will be distributed the same way.
      2. Personally I have no interest in the effort required to set up or maintain inferior axles, bushings, gearing or plastic wheels. Absolutely no interest. If anyone else wants to do that I invite them to do so.

      Assuming those involved so far in this discussion can agree on anything we have four. We would need at least three more and for the series to begin on time we would need to collect money and order models within a week or so… as before lmk…

    • #30101
      JohnnySlots
      Member

      I love IROC racing … but here’s a suggestion for a car that doesn’t currently have a class and are easy to work on … the new Slot.it DTM cars … a wide variety of cars to race. One suggestion though would be to swap out the motors. We’ve found a wide range in performance from the new Slot.it motors in these cars. I’ve swapped one of my cars over to the 14,000 rpm Jack Rabbit H&R Racing motor. These are abundantly available at about $11 each before shipping. (They might actually be considered as a replacement in the heavy Classic Stock Cars which tend to blow up the BWA’s!)
      Or, for a little more performance, try the H&R 18,000 Hawk Motor.

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    • #30104
      Porsche911
      Member

      I shouldn’t have assumed that our Master tuner would maintain the fleet of cars(inferior) and my apologies…I’d be happy to participate in whatever the majority/consensus deem, with 1 caveat… A true IROC to me would be each pilot ‘rotates’ through the lanes, driving a different car in each heat, assigned to said lane, thus making it ‘even’ and levelling the playing field. I think it will become clearly evident, that after 1 or 2 races, a few cars will be the fastest, and or superior in handling to others, and consequently, the ‘random chip draw’ will become an important factor, which it shouldn’t be. I would still suggest that we purchase enough cars to rotate(3 cars 1 event, different 3 the next) and so forth.

    • #30105
      JMSracer
      Moderator

      Just to chime in

      1) In my view, the point of the IROC is for everyone to drive the same car on the same lane, to isolate the drivers ability to drive while maintaining all other factors equal.  That said, I would suggest that we run the same car in the same lane for all to drive and not allow any driver to select which car to drive.  If both tracks have the same lane colours, it might be best to purchase a blue, red, yellow and green car and each car would only run in its lane. The suggested colours match the MVL lane colours and hopefully will match the other track which is at the finishing stages.

      2) Regarding which models to run; Porsche911’s choice of the latest Scalextric Nascar’s is the lowest cost option, and likely the most durable models with no little plastic bits that will be torn off or damaged in the course of multiple races.  If these cars perform similar to the Nascar’s we currently race, the racing should be very close.  It appears there are sufficient liveries to purchase two of each colour and this way we can alternate them each week and have a backup should one of the cars experience any type of malfunction during a race.

      JCB’s suggestions for a Slot it DTM class is also a viable option, there are sufficient livery colours-at a slightly higher acquisition cost per unit.  I would only want to include the Opel’s and Mercedes 190E’s as they are lower and have a very similar COG in comparison to the taller Alfa DTM models that are currently available.  I currently own the Opel and the Alfa models and can attest to the fact there is a noticeable difference given the lower COG, the Opel performs better.

      Ken’s choice is a very desirable model but also double the cost of the DTM class and more than double the cost of the Nascar class.  Personally, I intend to buy one of these models but it would be my last choice out of the three for an IROC race.

      My favorite of all the classes suggested would be the NSR Classic LeMans; there are GT40’s, MK IV’s, P68’s, and Porsche 917K’s.  I would suggested acquiring one of each model in blue, red, yellow and green livery and a fifth back up car of one of the models in a white kit that would be used as a back up car if one of the models experiences a malfunction in the middle of a race.  This is an expensive option (+/- $101 CAD each) but cheaper than the Thunder slot (+/- $120 CAD).  Prices have come down due to significant declines in the GBP and EUR in recent months.  We already race this class which we call the Classic LeMans 22k.  The older releases of these models come with a stock 20k NSR motor while the newer releases come with a 21.9k NSR motor.  We would have to convert all to a 21.9k motor to equalize the field.

      It will take two weeks to order and receive the cars so we will need to decide on the details and have the participants that are committed to step forward as soon as possible.

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

    • #30106
      GI
      Member

      I will hesitantly join in but it would be nice to know what car we will be using.

    • #30107
      Art
      Moderator

      Thank you for so many great suggestions!

      Nothing would prevent us from starting an IROC series mid-way through the fall either… so we can discuss in person at future races.

      Cheers!

    • #30112
      Ken
      Moderator

      I have reconsidered the idea of using the Thunderslot GT350. I was not aware that the price is over the top.

      Electric Dreams has these GT40’s for $50 US = $64 Cdn.

      https://www.electricdreams.com/Shop/slot-cars-c-168/slotit-c-168_9/classic-c-168_9_2211/ford-gt-c-168_9_2211_936/slotit-ca20z-ford-gt40-mkii-white-kit-p-12229.html

      I already have one I can to donate to the cause. I can help paint the bodies. Another 3-cars and we can hit the ground running in four colours.

      SlotIt cars are most likely the easiest to maintain. Can Scott at Minigrid still buy SlotIt direct?

       

       

       

    • #30125
      Art
      Moderator

      That is a good idea Ken.

      Scott has cars in stock. I will try to see what he has when I am there next, and he can also order anything directly from Slot.It too…

      No rush, we can discuss at the next MVL race in September…

    • #30135
      JMSracer
      Moderator

      If we decide to race the Slot it GT40’s…  I have five of them and will donate a RTR blue livery model.

       

    • #30147
      f1nutz
      Member

      Sorry I’ve been out of the loop but I’ll contribute to the iroc class as well.

      I agree with having the cars stay in the lanes and drivers rotate through driving each car rather than the pick a random car for each race format but we could experiment with both formats.

      Reasonably priced slot.its  like the GT-40 seem to be a good cost/quality option. MR Skotcar might be interesting to try since we don’t already run them but would probably be a bit more costly.

      Looking forward to racing again soon.

      cheers

      Bill

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